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From: Troy Steffens Sent: Sun 10/7/2001 3:56 PM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: 1984 Hi - pulled up your site while looking for an Orwell quote (that I still haven't been able to find) - something to the effect of "those who oppose war against an enemy are on the enemy's side" - anyway that's the principle and it provides an interesting twist to the people fighting the "Big Brother" tactics that the current administration is being accused of. If you know of it - please send it or tell me where I can find it! Anyway - thought you might be interested in the following commentary I sent out a while ago to my email list: I can certainly give you permission to print my commentary (but not "ownership"). I obviously can't grant the same permission to other's undoubtedly copyrighted material contained herein (like #2). You'll especially like #5 for your Newspeak section. ************************* OK - this stuff makes me sick. If we have to be politically correct to fight the war on terrorism, we've already lost! Five separate references below: 1) If you fly a commercial plane full of innocent people into a building full of innocent people you're not a "terrorist"?! 2) TV reporters can't wear or show the flag to avoid 'taking sides'? 3) We rename our military operations to avoid being mistaken for God?... 4) That Islam preacher at the National Cathedral Service - who's side was he on? 5) Just in case you missed it, my comments on the "crusade" word... --------- 1) You knew it was only a matter of time.... CNN joined Reuters (figures!) in refusing to call the people who crashed the planes "terrorists". They will be referring to them as "hijackers" because they will only call perpetrators of an act by what they have so far been proved to have done....UH - didn't they see their own broadcast??? --------- 2) New York's Cablevision Bans American Flag Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001 12:41 p.m. EDT While most Americans can't get enough of Old Glory in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - and major cable news providers like Fox News and CNN display a graphic of the flag 24 hours a day - New York's Cablevision Corp., owner of Cable News Channel 12, has actually banned the American flag from news programming. News 12 is broadcast over the Cablevision system, one of the country's largest, reaching 1.5 million homes through metropolitan New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. Cablevision, headed by media mogul Charles Dolan, also owns "The Wiz," Radio City Music Hall, Madison Square Garden, the Knicks and the Rangers, and cable channel American Movie Classics - among its many media and entertainment properties. "Our office is a newsroom and news people are committed to supplying objective information on events here and around the world," wrote Pat Dolan, News 12 news director, in a memo banning on-air flag displays distributed to employees Sunday. Long Island's Newsday reported the story in editions today. Dolan became concerned when American flags began popping up in his newsroom and - horrors - even on the lapels of some of his anchors. Meanwhile all the other networks, both broadcast and cable, drench themselves in red, white and blue. "We have to avoid giving a false impression that we lean one way or the other," said the news director. Dolan is apparently trying to strike a balance between his fellow Americans and the terrorists who have vowed to kill them. In an interview with Long Island's Newsday, which reported News 12's flag ban in print editions only, Dolan admitted the move has angered some of his employees. "We've had a few heated discussions." But he stuck to his guns. "What we're trying to do is make clear that our guys can express their patriotism, but we don't want the flag to be associated with their daily activities as electronic journalists." Dolan called the on-air flag waving "a real problem when war breaks out," explaining that he doesn't want his viewers to get the impression that "we may subtly endorse what the government is doing." To share your views on News 12's American flag ban, call Cablevision headquarters at (516) 803-2300. ------------ 3) The original name for "Operation Enduring Freedom" was "Operation Infinite Justice" but we changed it to avoid creating controversy when Muslims complained that only God can have control over 'infinite justice'. 'Scuse me - I have to wipe the chunks off my keyboard! ------------ 4) In the National Cathedral service held a few days after the attack that the first major speaker was an Islamic leader: I wrote earlier - Did anyone besides me noticed that his speech was so generically worded that he could easily have been referring to defending the Islam religion and his country the entire time, as opposed to denouncing the terrorist acts against America!? I was in shock... but I'm sure ObL was applauding his judicious use of American air time and tears... Looks like I was right - the same person was later reported by Fox news as speaking out to groups in NYC in SUPPORT of two terrorist organizations and saying that Allah was going to punish America… ------------ 5) In case you missed my earlier comments on "crusade": I'm tired of the emphasis placed upon Bush's use of the word "crusade" and the hysterical conclusions people jump to as a result. So President Bush used the "C" word to describe our current armed response to the 9-11 attack - Big Deal. Now we're hearing from all kinds of limp minded PC idiots (BBC, et. al.) about how this will alienate the US Muslims and turn this into a Judeo-Christian versus Muslim war. Sadly, from one viewpoint, it IS an Islam thing wherein they have declared a holy Jihad against us and asked all their Muslim brothers to kill us in the name of their religion. From our viewpoint, it's not a holu war, and the word "crusade" has way too much emphasis placed on outdated definitions: According to my American Heritage dictionary, there are three definitions of "crusade" (and I'm not talking about a Clinton "definition" here!) They are: 1) "...military expeditions undertaken by European Christians in the 11, 12 and 13th centuries..." a) we're not European; b) this isn't about Christians - Bush made several points that it's not about a religion and that Islam is actually a peaceful religion; c) we're far removed from the 13th century (unlike much of the Arab world!). 2) "Any holy war undertaken with papal sanction" a) again, this isn't about religion (at least on our side - bin Laden actually used the words "holy war" in his message to rally Muslims yesterday); b) even if it was, this isn't a Christian fight - it's a free world and American fight c) I haven't heard the pope sanctioning war - it was George W that used the C word, not John Paul - the pope is asking for peace! so that leaves... 3) "Any vigorous concerted movement for a cause or against abuse" a) Seems pretty accurate to me! 'Nuff said. |
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Webmaster: Infinite Justice - America settting up a world court to dispense justice forever, and forever, and forever. Hell, the Nazis only wanted to ruled the Earth for 1,000 years - the US wanted Infinity! |
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From: Norbert Grün Sent: Sat 10/6/2001 4:58 AM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: [1984] The German Translation of "Rectify" Dear Maintainer! While reading the English original of 1984 I found on your site, I found the word I had looked for leading me to your site. It is "to rectify". The German version of 1984 uses "rechtstellen" in this case. This would translate back to English as "to put right" in Oldspeak, the Newspeak equivalent would be "outright" or "rightput". "to rectify" is Oldspeak, meaning "to correct", according to the Cleverlearn Clictionary. So the German translation is more Newspeakese than the original. Kind regards Norbert Grün (gnor@x-mail.net) |
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Webmaster: Thanks for the info. Maybe someday I'll release A Multi-Lingual version of the dictionary. |
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From: Earl Gensolin Sent: Wed 8/29/2001 6:23 AM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: 1984 Although I haven't had time to thoroughly check your site, you appear to be omitting one of the most perverted words of the modern English language: DESERVE. The old definition of this word meant "to be owed by right of work or achievement." The new, corrupt definition of this word means "to be owed by 'right' of need or great want." If this is already in your dictionary, please ignore this. If not, I hope you'll add it. -Earl |
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From: Racansky Robert Sent: Sun 8/19/2001 3:18 PM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: Newspeak in the Schools (fwd) Jerry Pournelle published this on his web site (Mail, 18 August 2001, http://www.jerrypournelle.com/mail/mail166.html). A reader pointed out that the URL I provided to "The Principles of Newspeak" contains a graphic pornographic ad (obviously, ads change, and I hadn't been to the site in weeks). A quick search turned up your web site, and I recommended that he replace the URL I included with a link to your site. Anyway, I thought you might enjoy the following WALL STREET JOURNAL story... |
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Webmaster: I liked the story about the stupid (elpletive deleted) that was offended by the word 'cocoon'. Some people will never be happy. |
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From: adam.roach Sent: Wed 8/1/2001 8:51 PM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: Bush/Gore arguments I know the topic is 8 months dead, but I want to make some comments that may help you in the future. I think your overall credibility and perceived objectivity would be greatly improved if you assigned weights to the incidents, and percentages to the "win/loss" evaluation. The use of only four gradations of "Bush/Gore/Tie/Neither" (with "tie" and "neither" arguably being the same grade) tends to ignore the subtleties involved. If there can be a tie on an issue, there can certainly be a 40/60 split, or some other non-winner-takes-all combination. Just food for thought. P.S. The 1984 newspeak dictionary is very nice. Thanks. |
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Webmaster: Bush won... And I'm NOT gonna do another recount! ;) |
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From: Johnathan Primm Sent: Thu 7/12/2001 10:03 AM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: "1984" Half-words Hello; I was clued in to your web site after reading Neal Boorts' website. I began to worry that I was the only one who had actually read "1984" and recognized that much of what was written by George Orwell has come to pass. Up to now I thought I was the only one that noticed the current trend of using "newspeak", Of course the news media, government, and advertising agencies deny it, instead they consider it gender/race/ethincally sensitive (aka Politically Correct) language. We are all familiar with the terms used, but there are some others that you might be able to use. While I was in Somalia we referred to the local inhabitants as "Sammies" (a name they used themselves when referring to each other) we soon received word through official channels that we couldn't use the word because it was racially insensitive and demeaning. So we started calling them "Skinnys" because they weren't very well fed, only to be told once again that we couldn't use that term, so we finally came up with "The Nutritionally Challenged" and heard nothing further.(To that way of thinking I shouldn't be referred to as "fat" but rather "Gravitationally Enhanced.") On a different but related issue. I have noted with some interest the current penchant by the news media and advertising agencies for using adjectives in the place of nouns. i.e. "The Inagural" when referring to the Presidential Inaguration, "The Tomb of the Unknowns" when referring to the Tomb of the Unkown Soldiers, "The Royals" when referring to the English Royal Family, and "Herbals" when referring to herbal treatments and supplements. There are of course other examples that I can't call to mind at the moment, the point is, when I hear some idiot talking head spout some drivel about the "Inagural" it makes me want to scream "THE INAGURAL WHAT? YOU SIMPLISTIC, OVERPAID MORON!" I believe this trend is a result of the de-emphasis of what used to be basic subjects in public schools, namely English (including grammar, spelling, literature, compostion... but then English is called Phonics now), Math, Geography, History. I know this to be true as my nephew informed me that in the fourth and fifth grade he does not have weekly spelling tests and he rarely has any points taken off for poor penmanship or spelling while writing. Again it was nice to know that someone else sees through the "doublespeak" and realizes what is going on. I have some very real fears for this country which has readily embraced the idea of the virtual emasculation of it's male population in order to further the twisted agenda of the "feministas", the abolishment of the first and second amendments to the Bill of rights, and the insane idea that Global warming has been a result of human activity since the late 1800's. I apologize for rambling, but because so many of the traditional values that I was taught are under assault it is hard to know where to start. Thanks for your time and paitence Jonathan Primm Broussard, LA |
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Webmaster: Rambling is an indication that a person is capable of maintaining a train of thought. Most people would just jump of the train halfway through in order to watch the latest installment of 'Survivor'. And of course, there are others that ride the train forever and never arrive at a destination. |
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From: Claude R. Jones Jr. Sent: Tue 7/10/2001 9:29 AM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: Psychology of SUV? Hi, I was using Google to get information on "Doublespeak" and your website came up. I have the book 1984, I have not read the book yet. I have read the Afterword by Erich Fromm. (I have a Siget ClassicEdition) I am paraphasing just a little, he is saying (on pg 261) "The destruction of the humanity within man is easy. That it is possible, with means and techiques which are common knowledge today." That was deep to me. I read your letters in them I see you are going to write a dictionary on biz-speak. I have two books by William Lutz but it is not helping me understand an article in the Newsweek magazine July 2,2001 on page42. It is called the "The Unstoppable SUV." I am trying to understand about what/ where this"psycholgy of an SUV" image conscious stuff comes from. If you could direct me to a newsgroup or websites where I can get info I would appreciate it. Thanks Rick |
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Webmaster: Destruction of humanity by SUVs... Hmmm... |
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From: Robert Glancy [rhglancy@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 3:45 PM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: Newspeak website I just discovered your site by way of www.lewrockwell.com, nice job. I have never read the book 1984, but I would like to get a copy and do so. I did see the movie with Richard Burton and I believe John Hurt, it was decent. Burton was creepy in a strictly government kind of way. Anyway, I have already spread the word amongst some friends and "enemies" on the 'net. Thanks again. |
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Webmaster: I don't beleive the movie is available on DVD yet, but you can order a VHS copy from www.amazon.com for $13.99. |
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From: Susan Jeffers [mailto:susanjeffers_aafm@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:11 AM To: webmaster@newspeakdictionary.com Subject: Thanks! Hi! I found your site by way of a web search on "doubleplusgood duckspeak" -- you might want to update the link from the Times Educational Supplement archives unless you're going to leave the AOL site up. What a great resource! One little criticism -- you have quite a few spelling and proofreading errors -- which detracts from the overall high-quality effect. One I noticed over and over again is that you use "it's" for the possessive -- e.g. (from the "Distribution of Wealth" essay), "Sure, the USSR wasn't without it's achievements" and "When a government nationalizes all of it's industry, it basically turns every business into government agency." Both of these should be just "its" without an apostrophe. So anyway -- thanks for your very useful and informative site! Susan Jeffers |
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Webmaster: Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that the Times had linked to my site. I will make sure that users directed by their links are redirected to my updated pages. And yes, I realize my speeling is terrible -- especially during a prolonged rant. I dont have an editor (or any staff, for that matter), so I have to rely on my spell-checker to pick up such mistakes. And appearently, it doesn't pick up missuse of possesives. I'll try to be more careful in the future. :) |
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Subj: 1984 Date: 2/4/01 3:41:47 AM Pacific Standard Time From: drew@baye.com (Drew Baye) This movie scares the fuck out of me. Good web site. To Wisdom, you might want to add the following: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0452011175/o/qid=981289835/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/103-5928148-0572655 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0965603679/qid=981289950/sr=2-1/ref=sc_b_1/103-5928148-0572655 and http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0451147952/qid=981289979/sr=2-1/ref=sc_b_1/103-5928148-0572655 and to Know The Enemy you have to add http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0879755962/qid=981290058/sr=2-1/ref=sc_b_1/103-5928148-0572655 the philosophy contained in that book is the basis for such evils as sociology, religion, and just about every other irrational, anti-man ideology Drew Baye http://www.baye.com/ http://www.baye.net/ http://www.baye.org/ |
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Subj: 1984 Novel Date: 1/10/01 4:00:43 AM Pacific Standard Time From: K.Quinn_00@wkac.ac.uk (K.Quinn_00) To: orion1787@aol.com ('orion1787@aol.com') Hi there Orion, My name is Kevin Quinn and I am a student at Winchester University, England. I have just read George Orwell's novel, 1984, as well your brilliant web site. I have been asked to write an essay on how the novel 1984, educates us. It's fairly obvious how it does however I was wondering providing you have enough time, if your could possibly email me back with your own personal opinion as I am trying to gather as much information as possible. I would much appreciate it if you could reply back to me, however if you are too busy not to worry. Thanks once again Kevin P.S. Would you agree that the following sentences or the novel itself, could be related to an individual's journey through education. 'We' being the school/college/university and 'Ourselves' being the school/university/college's knowledge or ideology P.269 : 'We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves' also P.273 : 'There is learning, there is understanding and there is acceptance' P.297 'What happens to you here is forever' Also : What do you feel is meant by P.273 : 'You could grasp the mechanics of the society you lived in, but not it's underlying motives?' Thanks once again |
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Webmaster: I would have to agree with you. But it not just limited to colleges and univerities. In every organized, centralized, medium of comunication (College, News Media, Entertainment Industry, Internet) their are those who wish to control that medium to express their opinions. Of all of these midums, however, the college is the only group that has the direct power to punish you for disagreeing with them. |
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Subj: Newspeak Website (1984) Date: 1/5/01 8:00:08 PM Pacific Standard Time From: daveblah@irev.net (Dave) To: orion1787@aol.com Hey, I'd like to compliment you on a website well-done. It's a great page, I haven't seen many like it, at least none that are targeted at the general audience (as opposed to a sociology department study or something). But I disagree with something you recently added. The blue highlighting of the "anti-freedom" quotes. Now, I'm guessing that you're more of a pro-freedom Federalist than a Republican. You're justified in your opinions. However, it seems to me that you're suggesting that anti-freedom messages and the concept of anti-freedom is pathetic and "bad." For instance, the Ernst Herbet Lehmann (a Nazi) quote on your website. I'm not going to argue about whether Nazism is good or bad (personally, I believe a person's belief is justified, and however he acts on it is it too.), though I disagree with the fact that you imply (or so i perceive it so) these politicians were against the people. It's very discriminatory, because you're showing these politicians (who may be 'bad' or 'good') in negative light (Hitler and the Nazis actually restore Germany to a super power.). It's all relative to opinion, may be you've been exposed to a little bit of newspeak your self. It looks as if the US government has disinformed the people about what the true goal of the Nazi (and Communist, and Fascist) party was. It's all based on perspective, then again. -Dave |
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Webmaster: Actually, it is ironic that you critizize me for for my anti-nazi beliefs. I know that it is not appearant from my web-site, but I have no problem recognizing the achievments of the third riech. Ignoring Hitler's personal beliefs, he really was and excellant leader. He united a contry in trouble, and helped to pull Germany (And the rest of the world) out of the Great Depression. He nearly succeeded in unting Europe (thereby creating the Euro was ahead of schedule), and nearly succeded in destroying communism. I am an avid collector of Nazi artifacts, but it is simply for their historical importance. As for as the theology of Nazism itself, it was the signle greatest abonimation ever brought into this world. They had absolutely no regaurd for human rights. All they cared about were the strenghth of German, and more specifically, the strength of their own political power. And that is what that quote was talking about - he fact that Nazis believed any distortion of the truth was justified, as long as it furthered their political cause. I can appreciate their honesty in ammitting it (which is more than our modern politicans are willing to do), but I still disagree with the idea itself. When one is discusing his politcal beliefs, he will natually be one-sided. But the Nazis advocated. And, since the theme of the page is "Wisdom on the Subject of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness", I decided to keep quotes that went against those ideas separate. |
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1984 - not Spam Date: 2/18/00 12:55:31 PM Central Standard Time From: 00sjtalley@bsu.edu (Steve Talley) To: orion1787@aol.com Heard on the PBS Nightly Business Report: (a week in January that the market had a 'correction' had active 'profit taking' and basically went down) "This week the stock market had "NEGATIVE EARNINGS." I'll have to think about that one............ Steve Talley Muncie, IN |
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Webmaster: I'll be releasing a dictionary of "Biz-speak" in the near future. |
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Subj: Orwell estate Date: 9/27/00 7:37:04 PM Central Daylight Time From: bonnie.teitle@tbwachiat.com (Bonnie Teitle) Reply-to: bonnie.teitle@tbwachiat.com (Bonnie Teitle) To: orion1787@aol.com (orion1787) Do you have a contact to the Orwell's estate? I am having a difficult time locationg a contact. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Bonnie |
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Subj: Newspeak site Date: 11/15/00 3:02:40 PM Central Standard Time From: rogblake@iname.com (Roger Blake) To: orion1787@aol.com Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your 1984/Newspeak web site! The film with John Hurt and Richard Burton is excellent, very under-appreciated. Although some changes were made, it does a good job of capturing the essence of the book and the feel of living in Oceania. I do notice that you don't mention the "1984" film made in 1956 starring Edmund O'Brien. This was suppressed by Orwell's estate because his wife didn't like it! (A few 16mm prints are still in private hands, I have a VHS tape of it. It's not *that* bad!!) By the way, do you have any screen captures of BB gazing benevolently out of the telescreens? I've always wanted a BB screen saver but haven't been able to find a suitable image! -- Roger Blake rogblake@iname.com |
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Webmaster: I used to have a little bit of information on the 1956 movie, but took it off. I wanted to locate a copy of the movie and post information on it, but I wasn't able to find a copy. (Perhaps we can make a deal) I think I have a few shots of BB scattered around the site. Look around. |
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Date: 11/18/00 4:20:39 AM Central Standard Time From: anubis0990@home.com Reply-to: anubis0990@home.com To: orion1787@aol.com I noticed you put the Drug Czar article in there. You should put in a forum. That would be a perfect addition to your site. There are forums you can get for free to put in. I noticed the little argument you had with franko in the guestbook. |
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Webmaster: I'll think about it. |